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Posted by: Rob Goldsmith - Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:25 pm
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Post Send the ISS somewhere.   Posted on: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:25 pm
I read this in the WashingtonPost today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02394.html

Send the ISS somewhere.

The ISS, you see, is already an interplanetary spacecraft -- at least potentially. It's missing a drive system and a steerage module, but those are technicalities. Although it's ungainly in appearance, it's designed to be boosted periodically to a higher altitude by a shuttle, a Russian Soyuz or one of the upcoming new Constellation program Orion spacecraft. It could fairly easily be retrofitted for operations beyond low-Earth orbit. In principle, we could fly it almost anywhere within the inner solar system -- to any place where it could still receive enough solar power to keep all its systems running.

It's easy to predict what skeptics both inside and outside NASA will say to this idea. They'll point out that the new Constellation program is already supposed to have at least the beginnings of interplanetary ability. They'll say that the ISS needs to be resupplied too frequently for long missions. They'll worry about the amount of propellant needed to push the ISS's 1,040,000 pounds anywhere -- not to mention bringing them all back.



Thought someone might find it interesting :)

A good read if nothing else :P

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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:29 am
There have actually been quite a few unsolicited proposals to NASA to "boost" the ISS out of Earth orbit. What I would like to see is to hav ethem reconfigure the ISS to be unmanned then push to lunar orbit. The MM/OD environment is a lot nicer; and right now, to the best of my knowledge NASA and the ISS partners do not have a "good" disposal plan.

Imagine trying to dump the ISS into the south pacific!

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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:30 pm
A good ISS story here:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... ?series=35

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Post Re: Send the ISS somewhere.   Posted on: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:35 pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38661352/ns ... nce-space/

Why send the whole ISS somewhere? Send a single module - to an asteroid.


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Post Re: Send the ISS somewhere.   Posted on: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:49 pm
I have discovered this thread only now due to the update and I'm puzzled why nobody has pointed out the most obvious problem with the proposed idea in the link provided in the original post: as far as I know the ISS has nowhere near enough radiation protection to operate outside the earth's magnetic field. I'm not even sure if it would be OK for people on board if it was in lunar orbit?

Anyway, after reading the linked article I'm somehow baffled at the lack of thought that was put into this idea but hey at least I can totally agree on the motivation for doing it! ;)

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Rob Goldsmith wrote:

yepp, that was definitely the better one of the two ;)

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Post Re: Send the ISS somewhere.   Posted on: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:31 am
The question I have is: Who would volunteer to go on such a mission? It would take considerable time to reach anywhere of interest.

(I know that I have a short list of people I would like to see volunteer. A certain person from northern europe is on top of the list so far. :wink: )

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Post Re: Send the ISS somewhere.   Posted on: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:43 am
Further south than were I am in Northern Europe, I hope? ;)

Anyway,
Most of the time, it's cheaper to build something fit for purpose, than to try to outfit something that's been made with something completely different in mind. Take the money a mission like this would cost, and put it into something new!


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Post Re: Send the ISS somewhere.   Posted on: Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:40 pm
I'd like to go, and I fit the location "SA_Rocket_Guy" provided, though I will not take my fellow countryman along, to whom I guess you were referring ;-)

Seriously though the idea of sending a "station like" ship is a great idea, though I think the Bigelow modules are better for the ship, Better protection, in every way according to themselves, and I would guess the weight per volume is less too?!

Bigelow has himself proposed putting them in lunar orbit, and directly on the moon.


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Post Re: Send the ISS somewhere.   Posted on: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:26 pm
Hmmm, a lunar space station could be quite quickly surrounded by lunar water for radiation protection...


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Post Re: Send the ISS somewhere.   Posted on: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:58 am
Bigelow's orbital space-bags have the necessary built-in radiation protections for lunar settlement and have operable systems which make both lunar ground-stays and orbital space depot construction possible.

The cost-efficiency of the BA-330 seem to suggest that Bigelow may have created a living environment which is both light-weight (which means many of them can be launched for greatly reduced price) and which can be used in a variety of cis-lunar and orbital contexts.

The Bigelow module costs something like 100 million.

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