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I met an actual 'Red' x.x

Posted by: idiom - Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:34 pm
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Post I met an actual 'Red' x.x   Posted on: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:34 pm
For those not familiar with Kim Stanely Robinsons Mars Trilogy (among others) there is a new form of greens that get called Reds on Mars.
They basically want to keep everything Red and largely untouched.

Well yesterday I actually met someone who advocated leaving the Moon as it is now, as an international reserve of sorts. Not just precluding mining, but any future landings.

Apparently messing with the moon at all will deeply offend the universe or something.

Has any one else had similar experiences?

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Post Luddite plonkers   Posted on: Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:01 am
I was at a British Interplanetary Society annual conference in the early 1980s, and Martyn Fogg presented a paper on the terraforming of Mars. A member took advantage of the call for questions from the floor to lambast us all for even daring to discuss it. Apparently studying Mars while keeping it exactly as it is would 'ennoble our species', whereas spreading life throughout the universe would not.

Maybe we are talking about the same person. Is he a philosopher with an Italian-sounding name, initials E C ?

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Post Re: I met an actual 'Red' x.x   Posted on: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:46 am
yes, it always seems like where-ever i am i can't properly polarize into the group think.

i have a lot of very green ideas and hopes and dreams and solutions, and that puts me into contact with yes uber green folks who in turn end up hating my guts precisely because i won't hop into polarization with them over issues like these.

the dems think i'm a conservative, the conservatives think i'm a liberal, the greens think i'm a transhumanist pro borg, the transhumanists think i'm some kind of ludite and etc the list goes on and on.

once you step out of the matrix everyone hates you when you look at their bandwagon like its a ludicrous clown car; and they are all of them ludicrous clown cars.

I think the key to dealing with this is first not to counter polarize and second to laugh it off. What the uberfascist green contingent wants for the moon or mars isn't going to matter in the long run, because they are the only ones that can take their pov seriously.


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